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Fly Tying Riddle – Measuring Beads

by Lucian Vasies

Hi guys,
We have a brand new riddle for you:
How you measure the diameters of the beads ( like brass beads, plastic beads or tungsten beads)?
– cheap way( means no special or expensive tools) only what everybody has at home
– easy way
– fast and simple

The winner will be guy/girl with the first answer posted here 🙂 and will receive a Troutline Coupon of 10% discount and 4 bags with tungsten in different sizes
troutline brass beads

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35 comments

Sebastian October 11, 2016 - 12:40 pm

Use caliper

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Edward October 25, 2016 - 10:33 am

Edward,
Use different size mesh sieves. With small mesh size the smallest beads fall through, the larger do not.
Use a slightly bigger mesh and the next size falls through, keeping the bigger beads.
As you increase the mesh size, the beads fall through by size EVERY time.
Need a bunch of sieves, but they are cheap and they get the job done.
Mark the sieve as to the size bead it passes. Keep all of them out of the kitchen so wife does not use.

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Edward October 25, 2016 - 10:35 am

Forgot to add:Softly SHAKE the mesh sieve so beads move around. That way one’s not perfectly round will fall through.

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Sebastian October 11, 2016 - 12:46 pm

Use caliper

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 8:01 am

expensive, not all of us have at home such tool

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Alex October 11, 2016 - 12:48 pm

I don’ measure I believe. But if I doubt I can use Vernier. 🙂

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 8:02 am

you are a great client for sellers 🙂
Vernier is good but how?

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Alex October 13, 2016 - 12:46 pm

Paul said nearly how with Vernier Calipers. But, they’re not perfectly spherical like he said, but it’s nearly good and most important – FAST. 🙂
I’m great buyer, I agree. 😀 But, one time screwed – no more orders. I think that you guys – sellers, should send correct size of beads, and keep track of measurement. 🙂

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Paul Callaghan October 11, 2016 - 12:49 pm

The beads themselves could be measured with vernier calipers for the most accurate reading, though you are relying on aligning all the measured beads exactly the same. Beads are not perfectly spherical, so you would need to ensure the measurements are taken from the same points on each measured bead.

Not everyone has a set of vernier calipers at home (as I do), so a ruler or metal rule (preferably) could be used instead. Not quite as accurate as the vernier caliper but more accessible. The point about measuring across the same dimension of the bead still stands.

Once the beads are measured; the most reliable way of repeatably measuring beads (say in high volumes) would be to use a card with punched holes in the sizes of most commonly used beads – like a spaghetti measure but with smaller holes sized for bead dimensions.

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 8:05 am

correct Paul, But the correct and complete answer was provided by Daniel 🙂 Can be done even by a child with 7 years 🙂

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Paul Callaghan October 12, 2016 - 2:49 pm

Daniels method is a rough and ready method, but it is not repeatable nor reproduceable.

If I have say 5 beads of 1mm, 1.1mm, 1mm, 1.2mm and 1.mm; the total will be 5.3mm. If I measure using Daniels method, I will know that I have 0.3mm ‘extra’ but I won’t know which beads are bigger or smaller by eye. All I will know is that I have an ‘extra’ 0.3mm … that I shouldn’t have … so it’s not a reliable method.

If you size a card with holes (e.g. a bead template); you would have a more repeatable and reliable measure of bead diameter because a 1.2mm bead won’t easily pass through a 1mm diamteter hole.

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Richard Van Voris January 30, 2023 - 3:09 pm

In order to easily measure retrieved tungsten beads I have been using a simple plastic template that is primarily
for measuring twist drill bits. They are called a Drill Gauge and they often give them away at hardware stores as promotional item like they do with a paint stirrer or yardstick. Once you locate the correct hole that will give you the diameter of the drill bit or the bead.
After I wrote this I went over to my fly tying bench and tried it, it worked perfectly. My 7/64 slotted head bead was perfectly aligned with the 7/64 hole. Which I found out by reading the printing on the card is 2.78mm so slightly bigger than a 2.5mm bead.
I often drop beads on the floor underneath my tying bench. I can locate them with a flashlight and retrieve the bead with my handy magnet stung on some mono, but once I get them back I am often confused as to what size they are so I put them aside along with the odd hooks.
But now with the drill gauge I can put them away properly.
This may be a small strike for order in an endless battle to keep my tying area tidy and organized but I will chalk it up as a victory.

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Lucian Vasies January 31, 2023 - 3:21 pm

Thank you Paul for your contribution 🙂 very useful and interesting !
Cheers,
Lucian

Almir October 11, 2016 - 12:54 pm

Tape Measure

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Sebastian October 11, 2016 - 1:11 pm

Or everyone now have phone do we can download application which measure beads

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michael October 11, 2016 - 1:28 pm

with a measure tape under my flytying lens

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Daniel Ridley-Th October 11, 2016 - 1:46 pm

The cheap way – to line 5 beads up and measure them on a ruler.. then divide that by 5! under 1cm 0 1.5mm, 1cm = 2mm etc

the fast & simple way.. and the fastest way.. to read what you put on the packet that you send us!!

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 8:03 am

correct. Better with 10 or 20beads!

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Chris October 11, 2016 - 3:00 pm

By the smalles hole.

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eddy October 11, 2016 - 4:53 pm

take a wooden or plastic plate dril holes in it in wich size you have beads to measure

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 8:00 am

a hole of 1.1mm or 1.2mm or 1.3mm is quite difficult to be done correctly – sorry, is good but need good stuff, and too much time 🙂

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Carlos B. Pereira October 11, 2016 - 5:15 pm

By the hook shank!

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 7:59 am

complicated 🙂 impossible to measure in this way

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Carlos B. Pereira October 11, 2016 - 6:35 pm

By the hook hole!

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 7:59 am

how? 🙂

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Declan Smith October 11, 2016 - 8:06 pm

Drilled metal plate

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 7:58 am

yes, I know what you say but do you have in all sizes, for example 1.1mm , 1.3mm, 1.7mm? 🙂

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Nic October 12, 2016 - 12:48 am

No measuring needed. All beads are created equal, stored in one box full of different colors, sizes and materials. When tying a new bug, simply open the box and go with your feeling. On the hook it goes. If it fits and feels right proceed to tying the fly. If it doesn’t feel right, swap the bead with another one in your box. Repeat as needed.

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 7:58 am

yeah, I know Nick but there are guys telling you that sell 3.5mm beads and you buy 3.3mm 🙂
cheers,
Lucian

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Paul Callaghan October 13, 2016 - 5:32 pm

Find out how ‘the guys’ are measuring the beads. Beads are not perfectly spherical so it would be easy to measure the exact same bead as 3.3mm and 3.5mm depending on where and how you measure them.

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Doug Scherk October 12, 2016 - 3:01 am

Poke them in a empty drill bit set …I’m cheap … lol

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Lucian Vasies October 12, 2016 - 7:58 am

lol 🙂

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Balogh Tibor October 12, 2016 - 8:44 am

I have printed out a measuring paper, that one used with a lot of tiny squares. I just put it on it and instantly see how many squares it cover.

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Fernando October 16, 2016 - 8:22 pm

Hi, yoi can use this http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.ar/MLA-613368302-plantilla-de-circulos-marca-pizzini-10-puntos-_JM .
Sorry for copy the link, but i cant paste a photo.

Its a thecnical drawing ruler. Cost about 5 dls. Come with holes from 1 mm, 1.5 mm, 2 mm, etc.

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Fernando October 16, 2016 - 8:24 pm

PS. This ruler come un 0.1 mm variatons too.

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